Episodes

Monday May 30, 2022
E224 | Steve Magness: The Truth About What It Takes to Do Hard Things
Monday May 30, 2022
Monday May 30, 2022
The word “toughness” might be one of the most overused and misdefined in coaching and leadership; something we routinely seek and preach, but rarely understand.
Toughness isn’t about grinding through pain and it isn’t built doing “hard” things we routinely encounter; True toughness is better described as making smart decisions in challenging situations and problem solving through obstacles not regularly faced.
To better understand this definition and how to cultivate resilience, we welcome Steve Magness, a world-renowned expert on performance, well-being, and sustainable success. He is coauthor of the best-selling books Peak Performance and The Passion Paradox. His most recent work is Do Hard Things: Why We Get Resilience Wrong and the Surprising Science of Real Toughness. In his coaching practice, Steve works with executives, entrepreneurs, and athletes on their performance and mental skills. He's served as a consultant and coach for numerous professional sports teams.
We cover:
- Why pain, soreness and grit can be counterproductive to toughness
- The true meaning of “resilience” and how to cultivate a bigger toolbox
- How to reframe failure as feedback
- Toughness in parenting: how to make more resilient kids
Connect with Steve:
- Buy his book: Do Hard Things: Why We Get Resilience Wrong and the Surprising Science of Real Toughness
- Via Twitter: @stevemagness
- Via his website: http://www.stevemagness.com/
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Support for today’s episode also comes from Dynamic Fitness & Strength. Dynamic offers the highest quality strength and conditioning equipment designed just for you, your space and your budget. Whether you’re looking to outfit your college, high school or professional gym or even just your garage, check out our friends at Dynamic and tell them Team AoC sent you!

Monday May 23, 2022
E223 | Todd Kashdan: Disagreeing Effectively & Lateral Thinking
Monday May 23, 2022
Monday May 23, 2022
We’re living in a society more polarized and intolerant than ever before; A society in which it’s hard to tell a joke, let alone disagree with someone. But to evolve and for this to change, we need principled insubordination, systematic rule-breaking, and people not afraid to engage with those who share different views.
On today’s episode we have the pleasure of talking to Dr. Todd Kashdan, (Ph.D & Professor of Psychology at George Mason University), a leading authority on well-being, psychological flexibility, curiosity, courage, and resilience.
Dr. Kashdan is the author of Curious? and The Upside of Your Dark Side, and his latest book is The Art of Insubordination: How to Dissent and Defy Effectively. His writing has appeared in the Harvard Business Review, National Geographic, Fast Company, among other publications, and his research is featured regularly in media outlets such as The Atlantic, The New York Times, NPR, and Time Magazine.
We discuss:
- How to dissent / disagree effectively
- Why we should seek & welcome alternative opinions
- The importance of comedy in combatting echo chambers
- The right and WRONG way to change minds and behavior
Dr. Kashdan has published over 220 peer-reviewed articles and his work has been cited over 36,000 times. He received the Distinguished Faculty Member of the Year Award from George Mason University and Distinguished Scientific Award for Early Career Contributions from the American Psychological Association.
Connect with Dr. Kashdan:
Via his book: The Art of Insubordination
Via his FREE newsletter: https://toddkashdan.substack.com/
Via his website: https://toddkashdan.com/
Via Twitter: @toddkashdan
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It’s almost half way through 2022 which means it’s time to make plans for one of our remaining live events (if you haven’t already). Check out artofcoaching.com/events for all of our latest locations and dates! No matter your profession, age or experience, if you’re a leader or want to be a leader we have something for you.

Monday May 16, 2022
E222 | My Top Strategy for Personal & Professional Development
Monday May 16, 2022
Monday May 16, 2022
When it comes to personal and professional development we all know books, podcasts and seminars won’t cut it. Simply put- greater input doesn’t equal better output.
At a certain point, we need community, accountability and exposure to a diversity of thoughts and perspectives; We need help tackling our unique obstacles and highlighting our blindspots.
On today’s episode we discuss the single BEST thing you can do for your personal and professional development as well as:
- The obstacles all leaders face
- The advantages of community and how to find the right one
- Advantages of being around people who think differently
- Overcoming excuses & constraints relating to money, time and experience
- How to find and foster accountability in your life
By the way, if you’re interested in a community like this, check out The Coalition. We’re biased, but if you’re in search of a personal board of directors, think tank and way to get around great leaders who will help you build a plan forward, it doesn’t get much better than this.
We only run these twice a year and always fill up quickly! Check out artofcoaching.com/coaltion for all details!
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Monday May 09, 2022
Monday May 09, 2022
Jack Crawford isn’t your ordinary 10 year NFL vet… and this just might be one of the most interesting episodes to date.
On today’s show, Jack takes us on a journey from his childhood playing cricket and the *real* football in the streets of London to gorilla trekking in Uganda (with a few stops in professional football along the way).
We discuss everything from his unconventional views on good coaching to becoming self-aware at a young age, learning from failure, navigating politics on social media and even the experience of going to the same high school as Harry Potter (aka Daniel Radcliffe).
Connect with Jack:
Via Instagram: @j_crawford58
Throughout the episode Jack talks about the value of having great mentors throughout his career. That’s exactly what we’ve created with the Coalition; If you’re in search of a think tank or place where you can share ideas with other leaders, get real feedback and learn to grow personally and professionally, check out artofcoaching.com/coalition.
This is a community we only run twice a year and applications for the next round start now! Come join us and get a professional community, clarity focused on community and building momentum. artofcoaching.com/coalition
Upcoming live events:
- Speaker School - May 28th - Atlanta, GA
- Apprenticeship - August 13-14th - Sacramento, CA
- Apprenticeship - August 27-28th - Denver, CO
Today’s episode is brought to you by Dynamic Fitness & Strength. Dynamic is our title sponsor and our go-to equipment guys. If you need anything for your home or full-sized gym- they offer the most affordable, customizable, durable equipment on the market.

Monday May 02, 2022
E220 | Kim Scott: Just Work
Monday May 02, 2022
Monday May 02, 2022
What would we be able to accomplish if our teams, cultures and companies encouraged people to give each other feedback with radical candor, speak up when wronged and challenge colleagues and supervisors to think differently? What would happen if we were able to recognize, attack and eliminate workplace injustice and “just work”?
On today’s episode we talk to Kim Scott, author of Just Work: Get *t Done Fast and Fair as well as Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity. Kim co-founded two companies that help organizations put the ideas in her books into practice. She’s also been a CEO coach at Dropbox, Qualtrics, Twitter, and other tech companies and held leadership roles at Apple and Google. Earlier in her career she managed a pediatric clinic in Kosovo and started a diamond-cutting factory in Moscow.
We discuss:
- How to give and receive difficult feedback
- Best hiring practices (how to set checks and balances)
- Using improv as a way to scenario plan for hard conversations
- When and why it’s okay to get communication wrong
Connect with Kim:
Via her books: Radical Candor & Just Work
Via Instagram: @kimmalonescott
Via Twitter: @kimballscott
Via her website: https://kimmalonescott.com/just-work
Despite her international acclaim for work in these areas, Kim agrees these skills can’t be learned by just reading her books. Like any leadership or interpersonal skills, they must be practiced in real time in the presence of others.
That’s why we created The Apprenticeship communication workshop- so coaches and leaders could be around people from different backgrounds and professions, step outside of their own environment and get reps giving and getting feedback and having hard conversations. Check out our upcoming events at artofcoaching.com/apprenticeship.
Support for today’s episode comes from Dynamic Fitness & Strength. Dynamic offers the highest quality strength and conditioning equipment designed just for you, your space and your budget. Whether you’re looking to outfit your college, high school or professional gym or even just your garage, check out our friends at Dynamic and tell them Team AoC sent you!
If you’ve ever wanted an opportunity to provide more value to others, share your story and sharpen your ability to connect with a crowd, the Art of Coaching Speaker School kicks off May 28th in Atlanta, GA. Just a few spots remain! Check out all the details at artofcoaching.com/speaker.

Monday Apr 25, 2022
Monday Apr 25, 2022
We’ve all had what we thought was a great idea: a new invention that’ll make us millions, the perfect scheme to get back at our petty neighbor, the solution to end world hunger…
Okay maybe nothing that grand, but you get the point; There are hundreds of ideas that play bumper cars in our minds on a daily basis.
And yet, the majority of these ideas stay there, rotting away because we lack the tools to put them out into the world and/or confidence to ensure they survive first contact with the “enemy” (which is often ourselves).
Today’s episode is chock full of tools / strategies to help you get your best ideas out of your head and into the world. We’ll cover:
- What to do if you can’t think of any good ideas
- Essential questions to ask before moving forward with an idea
- Mind Mapping: populating, connecting & Sorting and pressure testing
- Brainstorming: rules of engagement
This episode is brought to you by The Art of Coaching Speaking School:
Whether you’re pitching investors for more money, asking supervisors for a raise, presenting at a national conference or coaxing your kids to bed, your ability to refine a message, understand your audience and deliver information in a way that will not only captivate but move them to action is one of the most important skills you can cultivate.
We’re keeping this event small and intimate to facilitate practice, repetition and feedback. Spots and limited and going fast-
Check out artofcoaching.com/speaker for more details.
Today’s episode is also brought to you by Dynamic Fitness & Strength. Dynamic is our title sponsor and our go-to equipment guys. If you need anything for your home or full-sized gym- they offer the most affordable, customizable, durable equipment on the market.

Monday Apr 18, 2022
E218 | Dr. Wendy Wood: The Truth About Habits
Monday Apr 18, 2022
Monday Apr 18, 2022
With how highly they’re touted, you’d think we know everything we need to know about habits and routines; But much of what we’ve heard or read about creating, sustaining and breaking them is pop-psychology, anecdote or trend- not rooted in science.
On today’s episode, we talk to one of the world’s leading experts on behavior change and habits: Dr. Wendy Wood. We get her take on what it really takes to form lasting ones, what to do when life gets in the way, and how to get rid of bad habits.
Dr. Wood is the Provost Professor of Psychology and Business at the University of Southern California and author of the book, Good Habits, Bad Habits. She has spent the last 30 years studying the challenges of changing behavior, especially how we form habits and why our habits are so difficult to change.
Connect with Dr. Wood:
Twitter: @profwendywood
Linkedin: Wendy Wood
Instagram: @ProfWendyWood
When it comes to public speaking, bad habits can be hard to break. Whether you get nervous before a big presentation, stutter in big moments or lose your train of thought in front of a crowd, we have a workshop just for you!
The Art of Coaching Speaker School is a place to build great new habits, get feedback and craft a message that comes across clearly every time. Only a few spots remain for our next workshop- May 28-29th!
Check out all of our mentorship options at artofcoaching.com/mentoring
Today’s episode is brought to you by our loyal partners Dynamic Fitness & Strength + Momentous!
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Monday Apr 11, 2022
E217 | People Watching 101: The 15 Types of People You’ll See at the Airport
Monday Apr 11, 2022
Monday Apr 11, 2022
There are some seriously interesting people at the airport... You know them, you’ve seen them, hey maybe you are them!
From Security Gate Suzy to Food Court Freddie, on today’s episode we’re breaking down the magical creatures you’re bound to spot during your next trip.
And don’t worry, today’s show isn't meant to be serious, we’re just having fun. So sit back, relax and enjoy some good natured laughs in the form of commentary on hilarious (and annoying) airport archetypes.
And if you aren’t sure what we are talking about- you will soon!
While you’re here, do us a favor and leave us a review on iTunes, or send us a question or comment; we LOVE hearing from you!
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Monday Apr 04, 2022
E216 | How to Ensure Your Audience Connects With Your Message
Monday Apr 04, 2022
Monday Apr 04, 2022
Taking time to do comprehensive audience research before speaking is the single greatest way to ensure our message comes across the way we want.
…And yet hardly any of us will do this thoroughly enough to make a real difference.
But we only get one chance to make a first impression and when people are trusting us with their time, money and attention- we have a responsibility to honor them at the highest level.
On today’s episode, we’ll cover the essential questions you MUST ask yourself (and your host) before you ever step in front of a group, including:
🔑Who will be in the room?
🔑What are they giving up to be there?
🔑What's in it for them?
🔑How will they be able to apply what you say?
When you’re ready to learn other crucial tips, tricks and strategies for winning over your audience and nailing your messaging, join us at Speaker School.
Only a few spots left for our May 28-29th workshop!
References from the episode:
- Episode 202: Why Facts & Logic Don’t Change Our Minds
- Episode 205: Strategies For Becoming A Memorable & Dynamic Speaker
- Brett’s Speaking Form
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Monday Mar 28, 2022
Monday Mar 28, 2022
As we mature into adults, we become a smorgasbord of the good, bad and ugly experiences we endure growing up; Each has a hand in shaping who we become as leaders, coaches, parents, teachers, mentors, and friends.
But regardless of where we begin, the decision to either re-write these narratives or succumb to their self-fulfilling prophecy is the most important one we can make in our development.
How will who I grew up as, define who I am going forward?
In today’s episode we hear from Coach Joel Sanders, a strength & conditioning coach at EXOS about how his upbringing shaped who he decided to be as a coach, parent and mentor.
In addition to being a parent of 5, Joel has mentored hundreds of strength and conditioning interns over the last 15 years and has had his work featured in Men's Health Mag, Women's Health Magazine, Men's Fitness, & Men's Journal.
We cover:
- The importance of choosing the right life partner
- 5 key principles for mentoring or developing interns
- Parenting in the modern world (lessons from 5 kids)
- Re-writing a family history and leveraging your story & struggle
Connect with Joel:
- Via instagram: @coachjoelsanders
- Via twitter: @coachjoelsanders
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